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"timestamp": "2025-12-01T02:23:39.88+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "how much does it compare to the other packages?", "author": { "id": "147848641153990657", "name": "kris____", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "kris", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/805c5f01c704e9d59152d5236ce525a7-F3368.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1444876840207519795", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-01T02:24:43.219+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I've seen prices like O($100) USD per package", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": 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"2025-12-01T02:26:37.803+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "time to buy a kiln and make some casts lol", "author": { "id": "147848641153990657", "name": "kris____", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "kris", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/805c5f01c704e9d59152d5236ce525a7-F3368.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1444914911313395762", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-01T04:56:00.078+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I wonder if that is a real thing", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": 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"author": { "id": "147848641153990657", "name": "kris____", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "kris", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/805c5f01c704e9d59152d5236ce525a7-F3368.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1445099163233550468", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-01T17:08:09.159+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-12-01T17:08:29.319+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I dunno, but I saw them on the other photos with new ceramic packages. Perhaps something that is used to hold them while bonding.", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "147848641153990657", "name": "kris____", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "kris", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/805c5f01c704e9d59152d5236ce525a7-F3368.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1445094495111876800", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1445099888516792474", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-01T17:11:02.08+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1445099888454012968", "url": "2025-12_media/image0-59146.jpg", "fileName": "image0.jpg", "fileSizeBytes": 13360 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1445099904773914725", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-01T17:11:05.956+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-12-01T17:12:50.037+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Maybe just part of the manufacturing process", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1445106685893939240", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-01T17:38:02.701+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yes exactly, after bonding it gets snipped off", "author": { "id": "492702620759228416", "name": "mattvenn", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Matt Venn", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/aa8560ba40f1f3d339d044dee6970630-97A62.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1445111439625945160", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-01T17:56:56.079+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "ohh that’s interesting, the holes in the first one make it look like it can be daisy chained with other ones", "author": { "id": "147848641153990657", "name": "kris____", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "kris", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/805c5f01c704e9d59152d5236ce525a7-F3368.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1446483834299351061", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-05T12:50:20.467+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I think it normally is… it comes as a continuous strip. The one pictured has already been snipped off the strip.", "author": { "id": "1071653002986926112", "name": "algofoogle", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "algofoogle (Anton Maurovic)", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/943b637dbdf34731305e66dde0369276-F77A2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1446483888665919508", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-05T12:50:33.429+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "(I think)", "author": { "id": "1071653002986926112", "name": "algofoogle", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "algofoogle (Anton Maurovic)", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/943b637dbdf34731305e66dde0369276-F77A2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1446768639687655425", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-06T07:42:03.363+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I've seen them come in large metal panels.", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447784913708384307", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T03:00:21.971+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-12-09T03:03:02.177+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Hey all, \nJust got some PCBs back today for prototyping and verification.\n*edit: also note these are HASL, while real versions will be ENIG. It didn't seem worth $75 for just pictures*", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1447784911204520079", "url": "2025-12_media/20251208_205627-581E0.jpg", "fileName": "20251208_205627.jpg", "fileSizeBytes": 3084445 }, { "id": "1447784911942713384", "url": "2025-12_media/20251208_205703-3BE6A.jpg", "fileName": "20251208_205703.jpg", "fileSizeBytes": 1972453 }, { "id": "1447784912525725931", "url": "2025-12_media/20251208_205731-938C6.jpg", "fileName": "20251208_205731.jpg", "fileSizeBytes": 2578424 }, { "id": "1447784913230364745", "url": "2025-12_media/20251208_205753-20FEF.jpg", "fileName": "20251208_205753.jpg", "fileSizeBytes": 2618023 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": 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"avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1447787649095172096", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447866215404933162", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:23:25.806+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Is there a minimum distance requirement between the chip and the binding pad on a PCB?\nI am thinkng about 0.5x1 chip but rotate 90 degrees for placement.", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1447787661455659098", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447866489838243880", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:24:31.236+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I think 1.5x~2x the die thickness IIRC.", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447866648957554759", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:25:09.173+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yes @tnt you are correct\nhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1touEQHWAOTon_98TdiVLKKqsQ8RJJ1tP/view", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1447866649222053969", "url": "2025-12_media/image-9FE58.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 104562 } ], "embeds": [ { "title": "Design Rule SCMicro .pdf", "url": "https://drive.google.com/file/d/1touEQHWAOTon_98TdiVLKKqsQ8RJJ1tP/view", "timestamp": null, "description": "", "images": [], "fields": [], "inlineEmojis": [] } ], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1447866215404933162", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447866907742175332", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:26:10.872+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "What is the expected thickness of the die?", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447867043201155206", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:26:43.168+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "The ones I have are about 0.7mm", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447867087543341207", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:26:53.74+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Although the numbers here are way off. IIRC the chips won't be back grinded so it'll be more like 800 um if it's anything like the sky130/ihp ones.", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447867200290422795", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:27:20.621+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I also believe they will not be back grinded", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447867376430354492", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:28:02.616+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "What I drew above is pushing pretty close to the limits in spots", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447868156767895595", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:31:08.663+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@Andrew Wingate btw, those light blue outgoing lines? They don't (always) connect to the red pads. Are these the ideal wire \"diretions\"?", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447868425774043176", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:32:12.799+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I spent maybe 10 minutes on this. \nJust sharing for the sake of sharing. The lines you see are just the old lines from the old version and don't really mean anything", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1447868156767895595", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447868576496353321", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:32:48.734+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Also @ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma \nWhen you all are saying DIP, what width DIP are you referring to?", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", 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"1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1447868576496353321", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447869002893230194", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:34:30.395+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "This one", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447869022095015950", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:34:34.973+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "The wide version that's .6\" between centers", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1447869021817929842", "url": "2025-12_media/RoU9Q-7BC69.png", "fileName": "RoU9Q.png", "fileSizeBytes": 58282 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 2, "users": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", 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"Thank you", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1447869145793167451", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-09T08:35:04.465+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "inches are hard! \uD83D\uDE42", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC9C", 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It seems there are a few issues. \n\n1. Just the extra cost, it would require more masks and processes.\n2. It seems the people who do the bumping are not interested in the quantities we're doing. \n3. Everyone would have to agree on a standard pinout. (I don't see this one as a dealbreaker, but poses some issues when we try to subdivide dies into smaller forms, or probably worse going in the other direction for a larger than standard size like you were asking for for more sram.) \n\nIt certainly is something that would be very useful if we can devise a way to make it work under all these constraints.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "384390069412429834", "name": "polyfractal", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "BreakingTaps", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/8d8c1d8b8ad51d6cdb1a47512c39b297-42908.png" } ], "reference": { 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"discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE07", "code": "innocent", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f607-0FB5B.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1450886993738207262", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:26:55.484+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "It's very long", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450788961726365796", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450887151733702709", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:27:33.153+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "It is, but it's also all 70 pins", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450886993738207262", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450887247359639663", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:27:55.952+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "It's not possible to use a shorter one?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450887629116801154", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:29:26.97+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I’m using SDRAM in my design", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450887677372272713", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:29:38.475+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Of course it is. \nBut you'd have to know the pins you could bridge (VCC, VDD, etc.) \nThis thing was made just to fit whatever anyone did, and more to just make something to play with than something that may actually be useful.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450887247359639663", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450887941902700654", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:30:41.544+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Sorry to ask, but why do we need an adapter board?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450888447463133375", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:32:42.079+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "You don't. This was more of an example for people who get the COB version. \nIdeally you'd have your own motherboard that did whatever you wanted and just had the mating 70pin mezzanine connector assembled so you could put your chip on however you wanted", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE2E", "code": "open_mouth", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f62e-FE396.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450887941902700654", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450888649448231124", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:33:30.236+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "COB version is a naked chip?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450889190068981913", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:35:39.13+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "COB (Chip On Board) \nThe COB is the small 14mm x 16mm pcb that is on the top. \nYour die would be wirebonded to that and then you can do whatever you want after, but don't have to find a way to wirebond yourself as it's not as accessible as PCBA", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE2E", "code": "open_mouth", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f62e-FE396.svg" }, "count": 2, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, { "id": "1498420485531111548", "name": "robtaylor_52029", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Rob Taylor", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/3-FB033.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450888649448231124", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450889379009663086", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:36:24.177+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "How is something like that soldered onto the PCB?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "1184268085822238821", "name": "saladchap", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "stuart", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/4938353f83780f56050d92be930226f8-BA286.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1438552043324440638", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450889635201810492", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:37:25.258+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "That is wirebonded and covered in clear epoxy", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450889379009663086", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450889718408675368", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:37:45.096+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Wirebonded from GF?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450889822314041495", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:38:09.869+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "No they found their own people to do the wirebonding", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450889930917281895", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:38:35.762+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "That means we get such PCB with CHIP (COB)", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450889942816391220", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:38:38.599+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450890419922538739", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:40:32.35+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "You get just this part with your die wirebonded and the mezzanine connector on the back. \nEverything below that (your own motherboard or breakout board) is on you.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1450890419788578977", "url": "2025-12_media/0005-BCE5B.JPG", "fileName": "0005.JPG", "fileSizeBytes": 4281829 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D\uD83C\uDFFB", "code": "thumbsup_tone1", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-1f3fb-ED2AA.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450889930917281895", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450890830603878590", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:42:10.264+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I that ok to use only this here?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1450890829110710406", "url": "2025-12_media/image-7731D.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 107772 }, { "id": "1450890830054162482", "url": "2025-12_media/image-EBD20.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 257264 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450890911352619151", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:42:29.516+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I need short wires for SDRAM", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450891246544355390", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:43:49.432+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Sorry if I’m asking basic questions. I’m not fully in the loop, and I don’t have much PCB design experience.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450892151918694451", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:47:25.29+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "For your own die, you can choose whatever pads you want for whatever. \nThese were designed respecting the pad choices chosen by Tiny Tapeout as they had the most ready designs available when we started all this. \nYou're also welcome to design your own COB chip as long as you respect the pad locations on the die, the wirebond pads on the COB PCB, and the location of the mezzanine connector. But going outside the standards will leave all the remaining details to you.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450892803633840210", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:50:00.671+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Would it be possible to design one universal board for all designs, despite the SDRAM/SRAM differences and other incompatibilities?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450893278798024838", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:51:53.959+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "If it’s not possible, I’ll need to ask you more questions here. My assumption is that I’ll need to integrate your COB board via an adapter PCB, considering the Linux SoC’s requirements.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450895136459460752", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T16:59:16.86+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "That's more or less what we have. I am unsure of the exact requirements you're asking for. \nMaybe there are others here more knowledgable who can answer these questions.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450892803633840210", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450896501235646575", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:04:42.248+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-12-17T17:06:31.108+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "All good. I can handle the schematic, and probably the PCB layout too, otherwise I’ll just ask. I also want to provide three PMOD interfaces so I can connect an SD card, Ethernet, and Flash through them.\nThe board only needs the adapter, SDRAM, discrete components, a clock, uart, and the power supplies.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450897275357368370", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:07:46.813+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "good old times \uD83D\uDE42", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1450897275131007088", "url": "2025-12_media/image-1D69A.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 223310 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "reference": { "messageId": "1450896501235646575", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE42", "code": "slight_smile", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f642-83E8A.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1450897518685716530", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:08:44.827+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "maybe 4 pmods: uart, flash, sdcard, ethernet", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450898689416499220", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:13:23.951+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@Andrew Wingate Last question: do we get the COB with this connector already attached?\n\nWhich connector we should use for the motherboard?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1450898688313397268", "url": "2025-12_media/image-212F2.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 154772 }, { "id": "1450898688846331935", "url": "2025-12_media/image-76A31.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 23798 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450898778411237517", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:13:45.169+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yes", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450898689416499220", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450898927456096266", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:14:20.704+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-12-17T17:14:28.548+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "And which Connector 236 or 262?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450899180397527110", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:15:21.01+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Mating connector", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1450899180141678663", "url": "2025-12_media/image-C5870.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 18000 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "❤️", "code": "heart", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/2764-A3D25.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1450898927456096266", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450899245581467838", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:15:36.551+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Thank you @Andrew Wingate", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1450899391467618476", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-17T17:16:11.333+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I see, that is a pair \uD83D\uDE42", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE42", "code": "slight_smile", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f642-83E8A.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1451214303838343290", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-18T14:07:32.293+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Came across another packaging tech, an old one. \nIBM mst\nhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/MZRlHEyirCE", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1451214304165761125", "url": "2025-12_media/image-D8A27.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 1926928 }, { "id": "1451214304513757298", "url": "2025-12_media/image-C0821.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 236914 }, { "id": "1451214304954286140", "url": "2025-12_media/image-3C327.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 165414 } ], "embeds": [ { "title": "IBM Eagle, a 1 Mebibit RAM chip", "url": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZRlHEyirCE", "timestamp": null, "description": "", "color": "#FF0000", "author": { "name": "EvilmonkeyzDesignz", "url": "https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiy0zhkYCeQBiSeZXJaA5vA" }, "thumbnail": { "url": "2025-12_media/maxresdefault-84EC6.jpg", "width": 1280, "height": 720 }, "video": { "url": "2025-12_media/MZRlHEyirCE-A0B07", "width": 405, "height": 720 }, "images": [], "fields": [], "inlineEmojis": [] } ], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 4, "users": [ { "id": "323371864074485771", "name": "mole99", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "mole99", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/3c7c17f3225f6e56f4dccd83f14383f2-73F83.png" }, { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, { "id": "675149742183022602", "name": "chasees18", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Chase", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/8234fabfe3c8d66f217ad798ea1d99da-69028.png" }, { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1451249444896112834", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-18T16:27:10.574+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@RebelMike @psychogenic @Andrew Wingate Hi pros, I have no idea… any advice for me, please?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, { "id": "937144360284348487", "name": "psychogenictech", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "psychogenic", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/118c147f506c7c79a0676e66d52d1a98-9E30C.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1451596145108451348", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-19T15:24:50.346+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "One more thing I noticed: if an oscillator is used, it has to be an SMD type. According to the dimensions, it still fits underneath the connector. I would have preferred a DIP-4 package so the oscillator could be easily replaced, but it seems I now have to use a 30 MHz SMD oscillator and place it under the connector to keep the trace to the ASIC short. Ideally, the oscillator would have been mounted on top of the connector PCB.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1451596643605680200", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-19T15:26:49.197+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I think you have exactly the same problem. How are you planning to solve it?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1451598024483668020", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-19T15:32:18.424+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I think the first iteration of my host board will have an RP2 on it to allow me to test things and play with the frequency. If I make a standalone version I’d probably go for the chip I mentioned before that buffers the output so trace length isn’t important - or see what other people have done and worked \uD83D\uDE42", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D\uD83C\uDFFB", "code": "thumbsup_tone1", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-1f3fb-ED2AA.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE42", "code": "slight_smile", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f642-83E8A.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1451607838328623248", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-19T16:11:18.227+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Regardless of the solution, the main challenge is the connector and the placement of the oscillator or crystal. Ideally, the oscillator would be mounted on top of the connector board.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1452398266233782293", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-21T20:32:10.925+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@asic destroyer - At some point I think we will have high quality analog IP for clock generation and we can then get rid of things like external oscillators", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE2E", "code": "open_mouth", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f62e-FE396.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] }, { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE4F", "code": "pray", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f64f-22B8D.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1452402811991228459", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-21T20:50:14.718+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@Tim 'mithro' Ansell , this COB adapter doesn’t make sense to me for higher frequencies or SDRAM. I talked to Goran—he sees no issue. The solution is to put both the oscillator and SDRAM on the bottom side. My schematic is done; I’ll do the layout in 2–3 months.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1452403429149249548", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-21T20:52:41.86+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I’ll use DIP-8 oscillators, and I want to avoid having any microcontrollers on the board.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1452404003907567787", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-21T20:54:58.893+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1452404003542405182", "url": "2025-12_media/image-32A30.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 126480 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "reference": { "messageId": "1452402811991228459", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1453328098711044159", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-24T10:07:00.263+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "AFAIK, you'll always need an external crystal oscillator for accurate clock frequency. I'm not aware of a circuit where oscillation frequency is not dependent on process corner and transistor variations. Alternative is that you need to trim each chip to get wanted clock frequency.", "author": { "id": "728516105680846892", "name": "chips4makers", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Chips4Makers aka Staf Verhaegen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/2649a6faac7843086b3d82b1d8f657a3-81998.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1452398266233782293", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1453328624701669558", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-24T10:09:05.669+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@Chips4Makers aka Staf Verhaegen - Depends on how much accuracy you need. With USB2.0 and a bunch of other protocols you care about the relative drift between two computers and you can get away with using a PLL on the incoming data signals.", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "728516105680846892", "name": "chips4makers", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Chips4Makers aka Staf Verhaegen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/2649a6faac7843086b3d82b1d8f657a3-81998.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1454641632103104637", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-28T01:06:31.028+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@Essen / @Andrew Wingate / @carlfk - https://www.ebay.com/itm/387551726916", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [ { "title": "EVG GEMINI Automated Production Wafer Bonding System | eBay", "url": "https://www.ebay.com/itm/387551726916", "timestamp": null, "description": "Tooled for 200mm Wafer.", "thumbnail": { "url": "2025-12_media/s-l400-1D60B.jpg", "width": 400, "height": 225 }, "images": [], "fields": [], "inlineEmojis": [] } ], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC40", "code": "eyes", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f440-6C64D.svg" }, "count": 2, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "443147704126668801", "name": "carlfk", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "carlfk", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/1a82fc0f66527d60b3c96bb31aabbbea-CF9A7.png" }, { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1454673565956964569", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-28T03:13:24.652+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Awesome! \nFor those interested in what wafer bonding is. Asianometry has a video\nhttps://youtu.be/2ACiuKgYUkI", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [ { "title": "Why Wafer Bonding is the Future of Semiconductors", "url": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ACiuKgYUkI", "timestamp": null, "description": "Links:\n- The Asianometry Newsletter: https://www.asianometry.com\n- Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Asianometry\n- Threads: https://www.threads.net/@asianometry\n- Twitter: https://twitter.com/asianometry", "color": "#FF0000", "author": { "name": "Asianometry", "url": "https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1LpsuAUaKoMzzJSEt5WImw" }, "thumbnail": { "url": "2025-12_media/maxresdefault-973F8.jpg", "width": 1280, "height": 720 }, "video": { "url": 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"timestamp": "2025-12-28T21:34:08.025+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "nice", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1454673565956964569", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455184620445372651", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-29T13:04:09.537+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Hello, is it true in my case that the chip will consume 13 mW?\n\n```\n\uFEFFhd@i9:~/hacking/wafer.space/gf180mcu-kianv-rv32ima-sv32/final $ cat metrics.csv | grep power__tot\npower__total,0.013211173005402088\n```", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455348666855456943", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-29T23:56:01.249+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-12-29T23:56:19.903+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@Leo Moser (mole99) @Tim 'mithro' Ansell \uD83D\uDE09", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, { "id": "323371864074485771", "name": "mole99", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Leo Moser (mole99)", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/3c7c17f3225f6e56f4dccd83f14383f2-73F83.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1455184620445372651", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE09", "code": "wink", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f609-9EC67.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1455381197248004196", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:05:17.099+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Most likely not; opensta can use the power information from the liberty file and *guess* what the power usage would be, but for meaningful real-world numbers you would need to give opensta a VCD or something that contains a realistic trace of what you're going to run. \n\nEven so, it will probably barely tickle an ammeter, so don't worry too much.", "author": { "id": "1187141985530818611", "name": "ravenslofty", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Lofty", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/dd665ae27be32531af89aeb08fd05e04-1D5A4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1455184620445372651", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455382694383980625", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:11:14.044+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "As a rough upper bound, can we assume a worst case where all transistors toggle every clock cycle?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455387521663107126", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:30:24.957+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@Lofty - That was my assumption too, but @Tholin seem to indicate their GF180MCU chips got pretty warm to the touch.", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, { "id": "1187141985530818611", "name": "ravenslofty", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Lofty", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/dd665ae27be32531af89aeb08fd05e04-1D5A4.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455388076217204799", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:32:37.173+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "At 50MHz, the AS2650v2 gets hot enough to hurt", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455388200066486312", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:33:06.701+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I wouldn’t call it \"warm\" anymore, but firmly in the \"hot\" territory.", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455388462315470972", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:34:09.226+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I hope the COB parts will be able to dissipate heat through the PCB ground plane", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE2E", "code": "open_mouth", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f62e-FE396.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455390926167085188", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:43:56.654+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "That’s why I cringe a bit when I see people just have CEN permanently selected on the SRAM macros because I’m pretty sure that that is why I have such incredible heat output.", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE2E", "code": "open_mouth", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f62e-FE396.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455391902512709809", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:47:49.433+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "That could’ve been communicated beforehand, though.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455392482752987218", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:50:07.773+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I still hope that half of that heat output was caravel", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455392786311549019", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:51:20.147+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Why do you think that?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455392915063836783", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:51:50.844+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Because its a whole RISC-V SoC with a bunch of SRAM macros that are also just leaving CEN always active.", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE2E", "code": "open_mouth", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f62e-FE396.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455393453063274589", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:53:59.113+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "How was it at 30 MHz? Do you also have data on the heat output, like how much power your design consumed?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455393617580527767", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:54:38.337+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "At 25MHz, its....fine", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE00", "code": "grinning", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f600-F7528.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455393924679209054", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:55:51.555+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Do you have data on how much power your board consumed?", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455394456109842442", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:57:58.258+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "No", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455394656459423785", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:58:46.025+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I have to sleep now. Thanks for the information.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455394900810928344", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T02:59:44.283+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I have no multimeter that doesn’t max out at 100mA", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455543394251047025", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T12:49:47.878+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "It's the signals that toggle; if I remember correctly a typical value used for power estimation without a VCD files is using 20% toggle rate on all the signals in a circuit. 100% is really worst case.", "author": { "id": "728516105680846892", "name": "chips4makers", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Chips4Makers aka Staf Verhaegen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/2649a6faac7843086b3d82b1d8f657a3-81998.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "1426598702289780918", "name": "waferspace", "code": "waferspace", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1426598702289780918-5942F.png" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] }, { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE4F", "code": "pray", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f64f-22B8D.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1455382694383980625", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455650310705119308", "type": "ThreadCreated", "timestamp": "2025-12-30T19:54:38.747+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Started a thread.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "reference": { "messageId": null, "channelId": "1454641632103104637", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455978455333212291", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-31T17:38:34.523+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I don’t know that much about pcb design; for now I’ve got 2-3 months to work on the layout. \uD83D\uDE09", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1455978455211704361", "url": "2025-12_media/image-93291.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 1384298 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "reference": { "messageId": "1454950491795493061", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDE09", "code": "wink", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f609-9EC67.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1455979020725260299", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-31T17:40:49.323+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Pro tip, \nOrder early, order often. \nJLCPCB and others have this global standard shipping, and it's like $5 US \nI would order what you have there, just so you can hold it and look at it. \nOtherwise looks pretty good so far \uD83D\uDC4D", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "❤️", "code": "heart", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/2764-A3D25.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1455978455333212291", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/1f44d-27259.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1455981461306867794", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-31T17:50:31.203+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-12-31T17:51:38.893+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I was thinking we could do the production with Aisler. Since they support open-source projects, it might be a bit cheaper. I’m in Germany as well, so it’d be convenient. Maybe @Tim 'mithro' Ansell , @Matt Venn , or @psychogenic has a contact there and we can do our PCB order through them.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "492702620759228416", "name": "mattvenn", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Matt Venn", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/aa8560ba40f1f3d339d044dee6970630-97A62.png" }, { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, { "id": "937144360284348487", "name": "psychogenictech", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "psychogenic", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/118c147f506c7c79a0676e66d52d1a98-9E30C.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455985199593820240", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-31T18:05:22.48+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I have six 100 nF caps on the bottom side for decoupling.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1455979020725260299", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455985448164921466", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-31T18:06:21.744+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1455985447896354997", "url": "2025-12_media/image-E6F48.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 391622 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455989574877581385", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-12-31T18:22:45.629+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "IMHO send the draft version to both Aisler and JLC so you can compare", "author": { "id": "732347216412278825", "name": "urish", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "urish", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/2b6c3aac0ae09fc8a72a4b2e17d7f9c9-39032.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "❤️", "code": "heart", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-12_media/2764-A3D25.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1455981461306867794", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1455990136738414763", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-12-31T18:24:59.587+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I’d also like to have the board assembled.", "author": { "id": "840182560252624916", "name": "logic_destroyer", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "asic destroyer", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-12_media/6f21ec45bc9221220509b769f634344b-E96BD.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] } ], "messageCount": 132 }